we've been in louisiana, we've been all over the place as have other organizations. what you're about to see as we get to the new year and 2014, you're going to see unleashed a wave of litigation that's going to be very difficult for additional to defend. this is not what congress wanted of that's why we had section 5. >> expensive. >> the fight was brought to us and we're going to take it on. what we're going to see is really an effort to bring to light, to bring into the courtrooms and consciousness of americans this challenge to democracy. you just heard in your previous sequence that's what really this is all about. this is a real challenge to democracy. we're standing at a crossroads and have to meet the challenge. >> it feels to me like this idea that congress didn't want this is also where democracy could flex its muscle. do you have any sense, any optimism we can get a new section 4 formula that will put the teeth back in section 5 from the congress. >> i'm very optimistic but also a practicigmatist as well. people are going to have onpush for this. dr. king